Final Jeopardy: The Catholic Church (11-10-23)
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The unseen truth about Friday’s FJ:
Joan of Freaking Arc by Alan Johnson
When I saw the FJ category, I thought I’d have to channel my late wife, a practicing Catholic. But seriously, who else could it have been from the 1400s? She was Jeanne d’Arc way back when we studied French in school. And I agree that “of Arc” should have been a required part of the response.
I probably should know this, but I don’t think the host has the final say on right or wrong on the clues, especially FJ. There are judges/writers sitting on the set, and they are the ones who make reversals after the fact. Also, the host reviews all the day’s clues with the staff the morning of the tapings, and it’s there that they may discuss what to accept and what not to.
As an addicted but horrible golfer, I knew the 3-under-par clue, but nowadays it’s referred to as an albatross. And water is called a “hazard,” and a sand trap a “bunker.”
No one knew the name of the protagonist from “Cuckoo’s Nest?” Wow.
Dennis got him mixed up with McMurtry, Howard
I caught that. Larry McMurtry is spinning in his grave.
The FJ was rather obvious as it could only have been Joan of Arc.
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“Joanna” would actually be a valid translation of Joan of Arc’s medieval French name “Jehanne”, whose Latin equivalent was “Johanna”. In fact you could argue that “Joanna” is a better translation than ‘Joan”.
I agree, the Catholic church calls her Joanna, so based on the clue his answer was actually superior, but Ken doesn’t know everything and he tends to rule based on his religions view
From wikipedia: “In the bull of her canonization, Divina Disponente of 16 May 1920, Pope Benedict XV consistently gave her name in Latin as “Ioanna de Arc”, “Ioanna” being the feminine nominative singular form of Ioannes.”
Continued on Wikipedia: Name of Joan of Arc#In Latin
@RocC, I shortened the part of your comment directly taken from Wikipedia because it’s that whole section and it’s just too long. Anyone who wants to read the whole thing can continue with the link.
Most European countries use the French Jeanne d’Arc, but here are a few exceptions:
Romanian: Ioana d’Arc.
Italian: Giovanna d’Arco
Portuguese: Joana d’Arc
and most, if not all of these names, can be translated to Jane, Jean, Joan and Joanna. BUT, back to my original point, I don’t think it’s acceptable without “of Arc” or “d’Arc.”
fwiw, I’d accept Maid of Orleans or La Pucelle, but never just a first name or just St. Joan (because she’s not the only Catholic saint named Joan).
No, unfortunately ‘Joanna’ wasn’t specific enough. If he would have written down ‘Joanna d’Arc’, I’m sure that Ken would have accepted it.
Alas, Dennis Chase moves on to the Semi-Finals.
FYI, William, I intentionally used “alors” in the “so” sense of that French expression
I don’t think Alan was incorrectly translating Jeanne d’Arc’s name. I think Alan was thinking of Juana I of Castile aka Joanna I aka Mad Joan. Queen Isabella was her mom. And that’s why I think that “just Joan” should not be enough.
As for Jeanne, there was also Joan or Joanna of Navarre (Jeanne de Navarre).
It’s just my opinion, but I think Ken adds half-assed commentary after some of the clues. Trebek used to be criticized for saying the answer two times when someone was wrong but that was better (again — imo)