Final Jeopardy: Ranks and Titles

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16 Responses

  1. John says:

    Nice job on your second win. Your poise and intelligence really shined today.

  2. Karen Ash says:

    Hi all! Karen Ash, last night’s champion and apparent new cigar smoker here. A coworker just emailed and said “Fikkle Fame is saying nice things about you, so you must’ve done something right.” Hope it’s OK to say hello.

    It’s been…interesting reading the comments so far, and good on you folks for the research.

    Couple of clarifications – despite being a business analyst, I never went to b-school. My degrees are both in linguistics. I do work in finance though, and my boss threatened termination if I had gotten the options question wrong.

    I did live in London for two years getting a masters in linguistics, but I spent most of that time in pubs or in Camden Market. I’m a big buff of European politcs 1848 – 1914 though (so I was also super-excited about the Drefyus Affair question).

    Thanks for watching, and hopefully I don’t incur too much of your wrath tonight.


    • VJ says:

      Hey Karen, thanks for stopping by and congrats again! You’re welcome to comment anytime you want :-)

      • Karen Ash says:

        Thanks, VJ. I will also try to stop in after today’s game for any praise/scorn I may deserve. :)

    • jacob ska says:

      Karen, so nice of you to visit here. I must admit that I am biased on 2 accounts. First of all, I am a native NYer but no longer live in the city. But I still cheer for NYers when they appear on the show.

      Second, I am an International Business Professor Emeritus so when you were introduced as a Business Analyst I assumed you had taken Business courses and had been awarded Business degrees.

      This is proof one should never assume. The first thing taught in an Introduction Psychology course. Thanks for the clarification. However, the fact that your formal education is outside of Business hasn’t changed my high regard for your performance last night. Superb performance young lady. My bias on your behalf remains.

      Can’t wait until this evening to watch the show. I’m a hard core Jeopardy fan. One of the many pleasures I enjoy in retirement.

      • Karen Ash says:

        Thanks, jacob ska! Bushwick represent. I’m glad you enjoyed yesterday’s game, and hope tonight’s is equally fun for you.

  3. aaaa says:

    Cyberial cigar uno for Karen for winning her first game. Well done my dear(lights Karen’s Portofino)

  4. jacob ska says:

    VJ, thank you so much for your expert research on the Viceroys of India. You have always been cautious on where you retrieve your information and the validity of the information you put on your website.

    On this topic Wikipedia is as wrong as it can be. First, Karen lived in London for two years so she clearly knew firsthand the correct information. Hence, the assured smile on her face before her answer was revealed.

    Isaacson the author of Einstein, Innovators, etc., stated on Book TV that he contacted Wikipedia many times to remove erroneous information he noticed had been entered on topics he had researched and published. Also, I know of no professionally accredited university that allows its students to cite Wikipedia in their research papers as a source.

    It has its place and interesting to read but I would not rely on it for all facts by way of accuracy. It even cautions its readers that citations are needed in some places to verify its entries. So it is honest.

    But in reading some Jeopardy fan websites I have noticed comments lifted from wikipedia that are as wrong as they can be. No fact checking had been done at all. You do use fact checking which has made me a big fan of FF.

    Again, thanks for your professionalism and ethical approach to providing us (your readers) with good and accurate information.

    • VJ says:

      Thank you for saying so, Jacob. I don’t trust wikipedia myself because I have seen (and corrected) a lot of poetry mistakes on there. The worst imo was a couplet from Pope’s Essay on Man (Epistle 1.4) that reads:

      “And who but wishes to invert the laws
      of Order, sins against the Eternal Cause.”

      Somebody put the last line in like this:

      “of Order, sings against the Eternal Cause.”

      and that changes the meaning entirely. I fixed it but not before it had been copied by many, including teachers!

      But, as you have said, they do have to provide citations these days so sometimes you can find a good source in their footnotes.

      Random info: one of the Viceroys, Robert Bulwer-Lytton was the son of Edward Bulwer-Lytton, the English novelist and poet who wrote the line “It was a dark and stormy night”, a recent clue in one of John Schultz’ games (he got it).

      Also, let me add a collective thank you to all my visitors who help me by pointing out when I make mistakes. THANK YOU!!

  5. Tom Clark says:

    As predicted by many, Marissa was a one-day fluke, although she did better today than I thought she would.

    However, like so many contestants, she just doesn’t understand anything about game strategy.

    If I remember correctly, there were only two clues left. Marissa had a little more than half of Karen. This is NOT the time to take a wild guess (“What is Rome?”). If you’re right, you’re not that much better off. But if you’re WRONG, then you can’t possibly win the game.

    This is a time when you shouldn’t ring in unless you’re 100% certain you have the correct question.

    Of course, Marissa wouldn’t have won, anyway, but it might have been like yesterday where she was the only one who knew the FJ. So she totally blew the game by not realizing the consequences of her wrong response.

    And now we turn our attention to Amy. I’ve asked this before, and there’s just no nice way of putting it: How does someone like that qualify for Jeopardy in the first place? Besides a distinct lack of knowledge, we had good old “category forgetting,” unless she thinks Amsterdam is a country. She was totally unimpressive.

    Now, on the other end of the scale, Karen was very impressive.

  6. Cece says:

    Since I made a negative comment about yesterday’s game, I feel compelled to say something nice tonight. Good game and congrats to Karen!

  7. jacob ska says:

    Marissa was not that far off with Raj. She had the right timeframe but Raj was a movement beginning in 1858 of British rule of India and not the title of the person. Amy was way off wih Lord Governor. This still was a very good game.

  8. jacob ska says:

    Wow! If I had known a Business Analyst was going to be on the show I would have predicted differently for fj. East India Company is taught in international business courses in Business Schools.

    I noted that Alex stated “no longer Governor or Governor-General.” That’s the way business textbooks state it also in reference to 1858 and what took place in Britain with the East India Company losing its power over India.

    VJ I bet you were shocked on the ts on poem by Whittier. I was and I’m not into poetry.

    Overall a very good game. Not many errors as in yesterday’s game.

    Congrats Karen and double congrats for being from NYC.

    • VJ says:

      @Jacob, I think I would have been shocked if they knew it. I have this anthology called “Immortal Poems of the English Language” and the only entry in there by John Greenleaf Whittier is those two lines, not the whole poem it comes from, “Maud Muller”, about a chance meeting between a judge and poor girl that haunts them both in their later unhappy lives.

      On the other hand, I was shocked that they didn’t know Shelley’s “Ode to the West Wind”. Apparently, I always think Shelley’s poems are more well known than they are. In one episode of “Bonanza,” they had a wall hanging, I forget whether it was one of those needlepoint things or just a framed quote, but it was the last line of the poem:

      “If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?”

      • jacob ska says:

        Thanks vj. Just found out by googling Karen’s name that she lived in London for 2 years. No wonder she was smiling after writing her response for fj. She’s also on a trivia team shown on the website.

    • john blahuta says:

      viceroy was added and since it was the higher office the title from canning on (after he was appointed viceroy) was “Viceroy and Governor General of India”
      the fj clue should have been worded differently, e.g. “….also given THIS title” or ” was appointed this, in addition to being G.G. of india already”.
      but amy had governor already as part of her answer, so mentioning the title and office of governor general could have been considered to much of a hint.

      the trend continues: now we are 4/12 in fj this week. a clean 1/3 or 33.33%
      i am a little disappointed that only karen got it, since they were only shooting for the “viceroy”part. but congratulations to her anyway!!
      gutsy move on that last dd.had she been wrong,the lead would have been a mere 100 bucks. as i understand vj, there was still a 2 K clue on the board, so karen risked not finishing in the lead going into fj. the 5 K bet jeopardized her finishing in the lead AND it did not make it a runaway either.marissa could have ended up with
      13.700 x 2 in fj=27.400. to guarantee karen a runaway only a wager of 15.601 and a correct response – which she gave- would have accomplished that,
      giving her 11.800 + 15.601 = 27.401, 1 buck more than marissa could ever end up with. but a runaway was probably not on her mind. to make sure karen stayed in the lead: marissa could have gotten to 13.700,karen had 16.800 hence a bet of 3.099 or less and a wrong answer would still have carried karen into fj with a lead . very strange not to go for a runaway but to risk a comfy lead. luckily it paid off. not only was karen right on that dd,she also got fj right, and most of all marissa threw her chances away with the last clue. in the end it did not matter, since marissa got fj wrong anyway.